Music as a portal for empathy, lamentation, and social imagining with David Gungor of The Brilliance

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While politics divides us, music is something that can bring us together. The music of the Brilliance, a musical duo made up of David Gungor and John Arndt, does just that. Their songs invite us to see the humanity in all people while wrestling with some of the most acute challenges facing our world: war, violence, immigration, political polarization, hunger, and anxiety. In this conversation, I speak with David Gungor about the transformative power of music and about the spiritual practices he is bringing to this election.

In this episode, David and I discuss:

  • How music transcends language to bring people together
  • How music offers hope by inviting us into other people’s stories and experiences
  • How music accompanies us in our healing process by transforming individual grief into collective grief
  • Why starting with questions is important in politics and in art
  • The role of music and storytelling in undermining stereotypes and inviting people to look at their own assumptions
  • Entering this election with integrity, vulnerability, creativity, and a willingness to see the good in the other side.
  • The back stories of some of their songs including “Oh Dreamer” and “Lake Coatepeque”

Bring this wisdom with you as you engage:

Download the transcript here.

You can find David at www.davidgungor.com, on X and Instagram @davidgungor.

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All of our conversations are offered alongside a spiritual practice that can help you move through this election season in a more intentional, healthy way. Those practices, including the playlist from this episode, can be found at www.thiselection.org/spiritualpractrices

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